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		<title>Comment on What Writers Can Learn from Superbowl Ads by Will Entrekin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Entrekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Matt.  That&#039;s what I meant by saying that they were against guys.  Bud Light had one of the huge missteps with their book club spot.

I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s misogyny; that&#039;s hatred of women.  This strikes me as misandry; tearing down men in any way they can, preying on male insecurities and noting rewards for being &quot;good little boys.&quot;  It&#039;s inherently misandrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Matt.  That&#8217;s what I meant by saying that they were against guys.  Bud Light had one of the huge missteps with their book club spot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s misogyny; that&#8217;s hatred of women.  This strikes me as misandry; tearing down men in any way they can, preying on male insecurities and noting rewards for being &#8220;good little boys.&#8221;  It&#8217;s inherently misandrist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Writers Can Learn from Superbowl Ads by Matt</title>
		<link>http://willentrekin.com/what-writers-can-learn-from-superbowl-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-5825</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The humor of the Betty White ad completely overshadowed the product it was selling. I found that I was still thinking about it five minutes later but realized I couldn&#039;t remember what it was advertising. Not sure if that actually counts as a &quot;win&quot; from an advertising perspective. 

All in all though I found that a lot of the ads this year really just made my skin crawl. Many of them where flatly stupid, and there seemed to be a running misogynistic undercurrent; lots and lots of exortations to men to &quot;reclaim&quot; their manliness, stop being so feminized, etc. Such an overt level of rah-rah machoness it was like they&#039;d all been designed by the boys at Sterling Cooper. The one that really struck me was the car ad (I forget which car-whoops) in which Michael C. Hall (&quot;Dexter&quot;) reads a list of &quot;obligations&quot; he performs for his wife that justify him getting said automobile. The subtext of passive-agressiveness &amp; emasculation resentment was barely a subtext at all. 

That Google ad, on the other hand? Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The humor of the Betty White ad completely overshadowed the product it was selling. I found that I was still thinking about it five minutes later but realized I couldn&#8217;t remember what it was advertising. Not sure if that actually counts as a &#8220;win&#8221; from an advertising perspective. </p>
<p>All in all though I found that a lot of the ads this year really just made my skin crawl. Many of them where flatly stupid, and there seemed to be a running misogynistic undercurrent; lots and lots of exortations to men to &#8220;reclaim&#8221; their manliness, stop being so feminized, etc. Such an overt level of rah-rah machoness it was like they&#8217;d all been designed by the boys at Sterling Cooper. The one that really struck me was the car ad (I forget which car-whoops) in which Michael C. Hall (&#8220;Dexter&#8221;) reads a list of &#8220;obligations&#8221; he performs for his wife that justify him getting said automobile. The subtext of passive-agressiveness &amp; emasculation resentment was barely a subtext at all. </p>
<p>That Google ad, on the other hand? Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Digital Conflict by Ieva M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ieva M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;at least think there should be longer excerpts available online.&quot;
100% agree to that.
My experience--I don&#039;t have an e-reader (they&#039;re awfully hard to come by in Latvia so I&#039;m waiting for them to come cheap and versatile bc I can&#039;t afford to buy and resell five devices to choose one I&#039;d love) so basically, if I love an author so much that I actually read the whole (pirated) book on screen I&#039;m guaranteed to buy a paper copy either of that or another book by the same author, even if I have to hunt for the best shipping rates and wait for a month for the book to deliver. I&#039;ve rarely (almost never) done it on the Amazon preview basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;at least think there should be longer excerpts available online.&#8221;<br />
100% agree to that.<br />
My experience&#8211;I don&#8217;t have an e-reader (they&#8217;re awfully hard to come by in Latvia so I&#8217;m waiting for them to come cheap and versatile bc I can&#8217;t afford to buy and resell five devices to choose one I&#8217;d love) so basically, if I love an author so much that I actually read the whole (pirated) book on screen I&#8217;m guaranteed to buy a paper copy either of that or another book by the same author, even if I have to hunt for the best shipping rates and wait for a month for the book to deliver. I&#8217;ve rarely (almost never) done it on the Amazon preview basis.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Digital Conflict by Will Entrekin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Entrekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eoin: Your proposal of small press for hard copies with online digital distribution sounds about right.  I get why corporate print publishers are good for getting into bookstores/retail distribution etc., but the whole digital thing confuses me in big ways.  Which is why I want an agent. To help me sort it out.

Ieva: I responded to your comment with another predicated on a faulty premise.  I think your identifying e-books as a marketing device is sound.  I at least think there should be longer excerpts available online.  But the other post was wondering after those e-rights, and why their included with hardcover rights in the first place.  But then again, publishers purchase overall rights, I realized, after further review, and paperback pubs have to buy those rights from the original publisher, who cuts the author in for a portion of the deal.

I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s the best business model, though. I&#039;m not sure I know an alternative, but something about strikes me it could work better in a lot of different ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eoin: Your proposal of small press for hard copies with online digital distribution sounds about right.  I get why corporate print publishers are good for getting into bookstores/retail distribution etc., but the whole digital thing confuses me in big ways.  Which is why I want an agent. To help me sort it out.</p>
<p>Ieva: I responded to your comment with another predicated on a faulty premise.  I think your identifying e-books as a marketing device is sound.  I at least think there should be longer excerpts available online.  But the other post was wondering after those e-rights, and why their included with hardcover rights in the first place.  But then again, publishers purchase overall rights, I realized, after further review, and paperback pubs have to buy those rights from the original publisher, who cuts the author in for a portion of the deal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the best business model, though. I&#8217;m not sure I know an alternative, but something about strikes me it could work better in a lot of different ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Digital Conflict by Ieva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ieva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about the same things regarding e-books as an alternative distribution to print books. I&#039;m hoping (since I&#039;m light years away from actually finishing the 2nd draft of a book) that by the time the matter becomes pressing for me, e-books will be seen as a marketing device, not as a profit generator. (Or, alternatively, that the e-books will be distributed cheaply and have a much wider audience, considering that people will likely buy more books if they&#039;re cheap.) 

Anyhow, I doubt that a sane publisher would hand over the rights to an electronic edition of the book to author so that author can beat them with under-pricing a book. After all, this didn&#039;t happen even when e-books were practically nonexistent, no way it would happen now when they are gaining more and more weight. There&#039;s a lot of money publisher invests into a book directly (editor, copy editor, designer and whatnot), plus a lot of overhead expenses (rent, electricity etc) that publishers have to cover from their income. They would need to charge the author for getting e-rights back which sounds sorta...weird. So I don&#039;t think you can get one without the other, at least not on regular basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the same things regarding e-books as an alternative distribution to print books. I&#8217;m hoping (since I&#8217;m light years away from actually finishing the 2nd draft of a book) that by the time the matter becomes pressing for me, e-books will be seen as a marketing device, not as a profit generator. (Or, alternatively, that the e-books will be distributed cheaply and have a much wider audience, considering that people will likely buy more books if they&#8217;re cheap.) </p>
<p>Anyhow, I doubt that a sane publisher would hand over the rights to an electronic edition of the book to author so that author can beat them with under-pricing a book. After all, this didn&#8217;t happen even when e-books were practically nonexistent, no way it would happen now when they are gaining more and more weight. There&#8217;s a lot of money publisher invests into a book directly (editor, copy editor, designer and whatnot), plus a lot of overhead expenses (rent, electricity etc) that publishers have to cover from their income. They would need to charge the author for getting e-rights back which sounds sorta&#8230;weird. So I don&#8217;t think you can get one without the other, at least not on regular basis.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Real Digital Conflict by Eoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece. I think big publishing has made more than a few missteps in connecting with technology &amp; the modern world - this Macmillan/Amazon thing being the latest example. Where we will eventually end up is an interesting question to ponder. But I do like the idea of being able to self-publish in some literary iTunes, without worrying you&#039;re shafting your career by not signing with a major. I can&#039;t imagine the financial returns would be any worse than being a midlist author in today&#039;s market, but having real control over your product (because that&#039;s what it is at the end of the day) is somewhat intoxicating.

How about: small press for hard copies - companies that really care about your work - and self publisher online? It&#039;s happening already, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece. I think big publishing has made more than a few missteps in connecting with technology &amp; the modern world &#8211; this Macmillan/Amazon thing being the latest example. Where we will eventually end up is an interesting question to ponder. But I do like the idea of being able to self-publish in some literary iTunes, without worrying you&#8217;re shafting your career by not signing with a major. I can&#8217;t imagine the financial returns would be any worse than being a midlist author in today&#8217;s market, but having real control over your product (because that&#8217;s what it is at the end of the day) is somewhat intoxicating.</p>
<p>How about: small press for hard copies &#8211; companies that really care about your work &#8211; and self publisher online? It&#8217;s happening already, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Future of Publishing is You and I by Maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everyone has a content stream. Everyone is a writer and everyone is a publisher.

And very few of us manage to get paid for it.&quot;

As a long time slogger, erm, I mean blogger, you have succinctly put into words the struggle. I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve thrown in the towel - usually on the heels of yet another rejection from one publisher or another. 

This year I&#039;ve decided to just write. I&#039;ve built up enough of a following to know my writing makes a difference somehow, somewhere and I&#039;m resisting the urge to &quot;tell them all to go to hell&quot; everytime my subscription list goes down. 

Though your quote from The Joker from the linked post is something that haunts me, I&#039;m just now exploring what it means to be able to write for an audience who appreciate what I have to say. 

I&#039;m trying to sink into the moment instead of invalidating it. After all, there was a time when the only people who read my stuff were my mother and all the good people on my Christmas card list.

I&#039;m still, however, bitter and not there yet ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everyone has a content stream. Everyone is a writer and everyone is a publisher.</p>
<p>And very few of us manage to get paid for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a long time slogger, erm, I mean blogger, you have succinctly put into words the struggle. I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve thrown in the towel &#8211; usually on the heels of yet another rejection from one publisher or another. </p>
<p>This year I&#8217;ve decided to just write. I&#8217;ve built up enough of a following to know my writing makes a difference somehow, somewhere and I&#8217;m resisting the urge to &#8220;tell them all to go to hell&#8221; everytime my subscription list goes down. </p>
<p>Though your quote from The Joker from the linked post is something that haunts me, I&#8217;m just now exploring what it means to be able to write for an audience who appreciate what I have to say. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to sink into the moment instead of invalidating it. After all, there was a time when the only people who read my stuff were my mother and all the good people on my Christmas card list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still, however, bitter and not there yet <img src='http://willentrekin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Trouble with Blogging, or: A Writer&#8217;s Dilemma by Maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s a solitary pursuit committed by romantic souls who yearn to tell the stories in their hearts to millions of people.&quot;

Wow. 

I&#039;m so glad I found your blog again. 

And so glad we both escpapred the trappings of Myspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s a solitary pursuit committed by romantic souls who yearn to tell the stories in their hearts to millions of people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad I found your blog again. </p>
<p>And so glad we both escpapred the trappings of Myspace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big News I Got While Away by Will Entrekin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Entrekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally take a democratic approach to teaching. I find it works best. I&#039;m teaching at a college level, too, and I believe students should participate in the shape and function of the course as much as they should learn within it.

Shakespeare wasn&#039;t always popular, actually. There were times he went largely unknown.

You can think it&#039;s silly, and we&#039;ll agree to disagree. For me, as a reader, King&#039;s always been a better writer, overall, than Updike, whom I find as boring and tedious as Oates. Sure, King&#039;s had some stinkers, but he&#039;s done great stuff, too. To dismiss him as simply a popular storyteller, seems, to me, a bit silly. Like I said, though, I wanted to teach structure and plot; I think you&#039;ll agree I couldn&#039;t really find either with Updike. Or most other authors acclaimed by critics, most of whom seem to think &quot;literature&quot; is synonymous with &quot;mess.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally take a democratic approach to teaching. I find it works best. I&#8217;m teaching at a college level, too, and I believe students should participate in the shape and function of the course as much as they should learn within it.</p>
<p>Shakespeare wasn&#8217;t always popular, actually. There were times he went largely unknown.</p>
<p>You can think it&#8217;s silly, and we&#8217;ll agree to disagree. For me, as a reader, King&#8217;s always been a better writer, overall, than Updike, whom I find as boring and tedious as Oates. Sure, King&#8217;s had some stinkers, but he&#8217;s done great stuff, too. To dismiss him as simply a popular storyteller, seems, to me, a bit silly. Like I said, though, I wanted to teach structure and plot; I think you&#8217;ll agree I couldn&#8217;t really find either with Updike. Or most other authors acclaimed by critics, most of whom seem to think &#8220;literature&#8221; is synonymous with &#8220;mess.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Big News I Got While Away by miconian</title>
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		<dc:creator>miconian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Popularity and artistry are neither synonymous nor mutually exclusive. The fact that Shakespeare has always been popular doesn&#039;t mean that being popular makes anyone else Shakespeare. The fact that Emily Dickinson was unknown in her own time doesn&#039;t meant that laboring in obscurity is a prerequisite to scholarly validation.

Anyway, glad to hear you are letting students choose from a reader, which means that they can enjoy the class even if they might happen to agree more with me than with you here.

I haven&#039;t read Strawberry Spring that I can remember. I&#039;ll look for it. 

I guess I should mention that I don&#039;t have a problem with King per se, and I have read and enjoyed a few of his books, including Skeleton Crew, It, The Shining, and the first couple Gunslinger novels. He does a lot of interesting stuff, and I especially like the way he intercuts the characters&#039; thoughts with the narrative voice. That being said, I think that comparing him favorably to Updike in terms of agility with language and character is a bit silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popularity and artistry are neither synonymous nor mutually exclusive. The fact that Shakespeare has always been popular doesn&#8217;t mean that being popular makes anyone else Shakespeare. The fact that Emily Dickinson was unknown in her own time doesn&#8217;t meant that laboring in obscurity is a prerequisite to scholarly validation.</p>
<p>Anyway, glad to hear you are letting students choose from a reader, which means that they can enjoy the class even if they might happen to agree more with me than with you here.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read Strawberry Spring that I can remember. I&#8217;ll look for it. </p>
<p>I guess I should mention that I don&#8217;t have a problem with King per se, and I have read and enjoyed a few of his books, including Skeleton Crew, It, The Shining, and the first couple Gunslinger novels. He does a lot of interesting stuff, and I especially like the way he intercuts the characters&#8217; thoughts with the narrative voice. That being said, I think that comparing him favorably to Updike in terms of agility with language and character is a bit silly.</p>
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